tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post4924059980779999324..comments2023-07-10T14:18:09.980+01:00Comments on Extension Blog: The southern turnout goes inJo http://www.blogger.com/profile/05480195769830116100noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-47055590221736758232017-12-20T19:49:53.951+00:002017-12-20T19:49:53.951+00:00Yes, on my last trip on the NYMR there weren't...Yes, on my last trip on the NYMR there weren't enough staff on board the train to monitor all the doors, all the time - so a couple of people ran (literally, ran) up and down the train for the entire Grosmont - Whitby journey. It was frankly rather annoying, and probably rather hazardous in itself. I remember thinking at the time that there must be a better way.<br /><br />The bizarre thing is, the NYMR stock had been fitted with bathroom door-style bolts on the inside of the doors, which presumably satisfied a requirement for the doors to be locked from the inside (otherwise the built-in locks, accessible from outside with a carriage key, could have been used). <br /><br />But because there was nothing to stop people simply shooting back the bolts and unlocking the doors, they still had to be monitored by staff. So as a door-locking solution, the bolts were pretty much useless. Still, I guess they ticked the right health 'n' safety box for someone.<br /><br />A central locking method was developed for Mk 1 stock a few years ago, which basically relies on an electro-magnet hidden in the door step. The external door skin is extended down to cover the step, so that when the electro-magnet is energised it holds the door shut. <br /><br />The big advantage is that there are no moving parts, so there's very little to go wrong. The disadvantage is that the system needs a constant supply of electricity to keep the doors locked - not a problem on a DMU or diesel-hauled stock, but steam hauled stock would need a generator on board. <br /><br />The other drawback is that the extended door skins very obviously change the appearance of the carriage.<br /><br />Here's a photo of a Mk 1 carriage with magnetic central locking, showing the extended door skin, lengthened to contact the electro-magnet hidden in the step. Note also the small round 'door unlocked' light between the two windows - these are ridiculous little LED things which are barely visible when lit.<br /><br />http://citytransport.info/Album/P1410929a.jpg<br /><br />I'm sure a more heritage-friendly locking method could be devised, perhaps using a solenoid to move a bolt (as on HST stock). This would require a relatively short burst of power, just for as long as the door is unlocked. It might be possible to make such a system work off the Mk 1 carriage dynamo/battery set-up...<br /><br />Michael Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08386451061160258935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-15793834522311684702017-12-20T17:02:50.337+00:002017-12-20T17:02:50.337+00:00The station team is pulling out all the stops to g...The station team is pulling out all the stops to get the toilets and booking office ready for the opening.<br />Jo https://www.blogger.com/profile/05480195769830116100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-54889519474876891632017-12-20T16:03:30.649+00:002017-12-20T16:03:30.649+00:00Well, Toddington Ted is absolutely right about t...Well, Toddington Ted is absolutely right about the weather. Let's hope the worst doesn't happen. <br /><br />Of course, I realise it's a long way to the Spring, but with regard to the terrible winter of 1962, and, before that, the winter of 1947, both those winters were atypical, in their severity and long term effects, but both were well under way before Christmas.<br /> <br />Meanwhile, we have had two particularly warm summers, long, hot and dry, in 1959 and 1976, from June to October. So, you never can tell !<br /><br />This winter, so far, we aren't doing too badly. I suppose we can only hope . . .<br /><br />Merry Christmas, everyone !<br /><br />Peter Wright <br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br />PeterHWrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16495198265526743106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-69727039960916536942017-12-20T15:36:39.142+00:002017-12-20T15:36:39.142+00:00Let's hope there's no prolonged snow. So ...Let's hope there's no prolonged snow. So much of what's necessary to finish before March is outside: welding, ballasting, tamping the track, installing ground frames by the PWay team. And having a safe platform and station entrance for passengers by the BAG. Toilets and ticket sales can be temporary arrangements I guess. Car parking will mostly be down at Toddington, I assume, so pedestrian access is all that will be required initially??<br />Peter Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15020212199830779526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-15929562218023763602017-12-20T13:06:13.644+00:002017-12-20T13:06:13.644+00:00Jo, Great work to you and all the team, i echo eve...Jo, Great work to you and all the team, i echo everyone else's comments, well done! <br />I know you guys have a lot to do, but, we've all been hinting at it, is there a chance of laying a couple of panels on the cotswold side by the bridge and between the caravan park. Make it look like a siding and hook up a turn out later next year?<br />Looking forward to Easter!<br />Thanks, Billy Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10298393521763708351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-17785982014928996672017-12-20T10:00:38.649+00:002017-12-20T10:00:38.649+00:00Spot on Mr Wright, an excellent comment. The bad w...Spot on Mr Wright, an excellent comment. The bad winter of 1962-63 started in earnest on Boxing Day 1962 and snow didn't go until early March 1963. Let's hope we don't have one like that this time! Even if it's mild, there is stuff-all daylight and everything is damp or running wet. Most mammals hibernate but you people are an inspiration. Toddington Ted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-7792852756281760362017-12-20T09:56:11.301+00:002017-12-20T09:56:11.301+00:00When I last travelled on a NYMR train from Grosmon...When I last travelled on a NYMR train from Grosmont to Whitby, earlier this year, the guard locked all the coach doors for that section. It might have been due to insufficient staff to monitor each coach but the doors were certainly locked for that part of the journey. You are quite right about the positioning of single track along the centre line of the viaduct; much less stress on the structure. It's all academic for the foreseeable future anyway as the cost of completing the Broadway extension and the other projects underway or planned for the GWSR will soak up any spare money. Toddington Ted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-6974397504899782902017-12-19T20:58:26.198+00:002017-12-19T20:58:26.198+00:00Thanks for the reply, for some reason I had it it ...Thanks for the reply, for some reason I had it it my head that trains running on the "edge* of a viaduct, as opposed to down the middle if you see what I mean, needed secondary door locking. Pleased to hear that's not an issue, not sure where I got that from!Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-23727906208497848562017-12-19T18:00:49.394+00:002017-12-19T18:00:49.394+00:00I don't know of any restrictions on double tra...I don't know of any restrictions on double track over the viaduct. It's always passed its inspections with flying colours, and I've never heard about any issues with the condition of the structure. <br /><br />As I recall, when the present single track was laid over the viaduct it was positioned in the centre of the trackbed to distribute the dead weight of the track, and stresses and vibrations of passing trains, evenly through the structure. That's common sense while the single track is in place, but it doesn't mean double track is forbidden.<br /><br />I don't know why there should be an issue with train doors if double track was laid. The Great Central Railway has been running Mk 1 stock without central door locking over its double track for some years now, without any problems. <br /><br />At 25mph the regulations are pretty relaxed. If you want to go faster, then it all gets a lot more strict - although even then central door locking is not necessarily mandatory.<br /><br />Charter train companies run Mk1 and Mk 2 stock without central locking on the national network, with extra staff on board to make sure nobody messes about with the doors. The NYMR also does this on their trains over Network Rail's tracks between Grosmont and Whitby, and I suspect a similar stipulation will apply to the North Norfolk Railway, when they start their services to Cromer. (The Swanage Railway is currently using a hired-in 4TC Mk 1 set on their trains into Wareham, which has been modified with central locking). <br /><br />So there are various ways to do it, but in short - doors aren't a problem, and neither is double track.<br /><br />I don't think the capacity of the single track between Toddington and Broadway will be a problem anyway. In the near-ish future, when Broadway is fully complete, it'll be possible to accommodate two trains in the station at once. A southbound train will be able to set off immediately the arriving northbound train is in the platform. This kind of quick turnaround will make the most of the line's capacity. <br /><br />I think it'll be enough. After all, on a typical day it's usually only the mid-morning to mid-afternoon trains that are really busy.Michael Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08386451061160258935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-62224906443646001972017-12-19T15:00:38.852+00:002017-12-19T15:00:38.852+00:00Yes, I agree, that really will be a special eve...Yes, I agree, that really will be a special event ! <br /><br />Let's all remember the PW team whose job it will be to make the track usable up to Broadway. What with ballasting, fettling, and I don't know what else, this last stretch may prove the hardest grind of all, especially at this time of year.<br /><br />So much depends on the weather. One heavy fall of snow, and things could grind to a halt for days. And even if there is no snow, there will always be that "chilly" wind. (Is "chilly" quite the right word, or should I have used a stronger word ?) Do you remember the balmy days of June, and all that sunshine, when you would be tempted to take your jacket off to cool down ! <br /><br />Frankly, I really couldn't see how you could do much work during the winter months, but you're doing it regardless. It seems there's no stopping the PW team. Go on, brave men, and let's see a picture of the PW train on the Evesham road bridge.<br /><br />Yours admiringly,<br /><br />Peter Wright<br />PeterHWrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16495198265526743106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-62270722058119423182017-12-18T17:59:26.963+00:002017-12-18T17:59:26.963+00:00You should have thought about that before you pinc...You should have thought about that before you pinched Laverton loop for Broadway! ;)<br /><br />I always assumed double track was out of the question because of the viaduct and modern regulations about doors, otherwise it would seem an ideal section for double tracking (he says to a disgruntled P-way team - yes I *know*)<br /><br />AlexAlexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-5061492151562647462017-12-18T17:53:43.872+00:002017-12-18T17:53:43.872+00:00Double track, or a passing loop perhaps?
But we t...Double track, or a passing loop perhaps?<br /><br />But we took the passing loop out... oh nnooooooooooJo https://www.blogger.com/profile/05480195769830116100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-73433200915888902742017-12-18T17:24:53.115+00:002017-12-18T17:24:53.115+00:00Hourly departures from Broadway during the opening...Hourly departures from Broadway during the opening weekend doesn't look too shabby to me? All trains running look like they go to Broadway as well as far as I can see, it's never missed out. Also worth remembering the single line section between Toddington and Broadway is very much the longest of our single line sections so Toddington to Broadway will always be a pinch point.<br /><br />Hope that helps,<br /><br />AlexAlexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-34655610204890205702017-12-18T16:58:35.678+00:002017-12-18T16:58:35.678+00:00Whoo Hoo! my monies is now on the Class 20 to be t...Whoo Hoo! my monies is now on the Class 20 to be the first Loco into Broadway, Picture 14, a view from the Mess coach along Station Road, that's got to be a first!!! Well done the PW Department, another milestone passed!<br />Regards <br />Paul & Marion Paul & Marion Sucksmithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15384367780051937185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-82918711740006951302017-12-18T16:15:39.335+00:002017-12-18T16:15:39.335+00:00seen the timetable for Broadway Easter weekend onl...seen the timetable for Broadway Easter weekend only a few thru trains to Broadway any ideas on a dmu shuttle service to toddington otherwise with the crowds it could become a struggle any ideas on this not long to go now..🍴CAFE.? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14007700711880778615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-18378336666590322822017-12-17T19:51:42.922+00:002017-12-17T19:51:42.922+00:00We've been watching the progress of the extens...We've been watching the progress of the extension from our back garden for the past year and are thrilled to know it won't be long until we see the culmination of the amazing job you've all been doing. Hats off to you all. Roll on Good Friday.Carolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8914276256646518799.post-40493583334738601832017-12-17T18:07:47.810+00:002017-12-17T18:07:47.810+00:00What brilliant work ! What a lot you've got...What brilliant work ! What a lot you've got done ! It's amazing. You're amazing. All of you. Yes, I remember, you did say, in an earlier post, that you'd get it done by the end of the year, didn't you ? And yes, we all realise the work yet to be done to get the track into useable condition. <br /><br />But, oh my word, to sit in the PW coach on Childswickam road bridge ! What a sensation! I had no idea you had the PW train that far along. And with mess facilities. Including A CAKE ! <br /><br />Glad you made it, (over what must at the moment be a very wobbly bit of track, ) safely back to Toddington, of course. But I suppose you know we all look forward to seeing the PW train at Broadway. On the Evesham road bridge. That will be a sight ! <br /><br />Go on. You're doing wonderfully. And I can see that nothing will stop you.<br /><br />Yours enthusiastically, <br /><br />Peter Wright <br /><br /><br /><br /> PeterHWrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16495198265526743106noreply@blogger.com